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fuzzball · May 20, 2008, 02:39 AM // 02:39

/signed KILLING URSAN FTW
/notsigned 97,98,99 ursan forums... i lost count QQ

Aldric · May 20, 2008, 08:17 AM // 08:17

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Originally Posted by ogre_jd

Ursan's not the only reason to raise your Norn rank. Plenty of other worthwhile Norn skills - [["I Am The Strongest!"] (my favorite PvE skill, especially for Hammer builds where most +damage would wear out before you get more than a couple of hits in, even with IAS), [["Finish Him!"], [["I Am Unstoppable!"], [["You Move Like a Dwarf!"], [[Feel No Pain], [[A Touch of Guile], and [[Club of a Thousand Bears], for example. And I suppose there are some that feel that [["Dodge This!"] is good, but it's meh to me.

Exactly my reason's for not wanting a regional limit to skills . I use a number of these on my builds and not having them available would be irritating beyond belief.

By all means give UB a double helping of the nerf bat but not via introducing area specific skills

Mini Masher · May 20, 2008, 08:18 PM // 20:18

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Originally Posted by I Will Kill You

K People know how to make a dang build(well some people can) it is just fun to play Ursan they get r10 and it is just a joyride they don't ALWAYS play it.....most things are easier with an ursan build...that is it.....Gosh...

If it were only a few people using it for a short period of time this thread would not exist. It's bad. It promotes incompetant play. That is it.

borik oakwood · May 20, 2008, 09:25 PM // 21:25

People are saying that You can get Rank 10 ursans easy and if you dont want to that your a noob. Thats what annoys me!

neither signed or unsigned i have my own district and i shall keep it that way.

Bryant Again · May 21, 2008, 04:16 PM // 16:16

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Originally Posted by Rene Saliere

Anyway as the older player base leaves Ursan Wars in disgust, the newer players learn nothing, and the whole game degenerates over time, like an old brain with no stimuli.

Is this too difficult to follow?

They learn nothing because there's no incentive to learn anything. When you already have one of the most powerful and convenient builds at your fingertips, why learn anything new? When you can already storm through DoA, why improve your class?

x_fiddle · May 21, 2008, 04:23 PM // 16:23

/signed

I never understood who the hell would look for or enable cheat codes in games, sure its fun for awhile but whats the point without challenge. To me, Ursan has turned into just that, a cheat code for Guild Wars.

Ursan Blessing should be toned down to a viable alternative build rather than the be all end skill for almost every guild wars party.

Molock · May 21, 2008, 05:04 PM // 17:04

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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

yes, it IS better, you get to choose between 3 builds but you get to choose any class that you want (yes even an assasin, mesmer, ritualist, dervish) instead of having to use monk/ele/necro/warrior which had only 1 build for each that were allowed in party in.

What is the point! You may have assassin armor, perhaps daggers (although most likely shield and sword), and have the A/ next to your name but you AREN'T actually playing assassin so its completely pointless. All your skills are replaced with Ursan Blessing skills, whether you are a mesmer, a warrior or an assassin you are all doing exactly the same thing. Ursan blessing promotes the extermination of diversity of professions, the only skilled players in an ursanway group are the monks, and even then an average monk (red bars go up) can handle most situation. Ursan blessing never should of been implemented, Izzy needs to realize that Ursan is affecting GW in a negative way, and the only QQ'ers here are those afraid of a nerf to Ursan, clearly they wouldn't be able to handle normal play styles.

Tyla · May 21, 2008, 06:13 PM // 18:13

Yeah, but Molock, even the Monks can buttonmash the shit out of their bars and hit Seed spells while targetting the Ursans.

ThibLeGuerrier · May 21, 2008, 06:43 PM // 18:43

/unsigned

There are many good skills in gw and being powerful is cool, UB is an easy way to reach it, ok maybe it has made noob become good players but I don't care, i'm really taking fun with it and when I see the times ursans (R10+cons...) takes for some elite missions it's so long !!!!!!! Look at DoA for instance, foundry was so long to do before something like 3hours, now you got it in less than 1h running ursan... And they say : "You've been playing for two hours, you should have a break etc..." (?!) It can be even more for some dungeons in HM... So ursan is good for reducing times needed for a "normal team", it also allows many people to contemplates the elite regions of gw and to succeed them.

I love this overpowered skill, UB teams go so fast for killing mobs it's really active you get with three ursans on one aaxte for instance, spike with first skill and aaxte is down ^^.
People also should make the difference between bad ursans and good ursans :

I have a W/R with armor 80 +20 vs physical +10 with stance (or +20vs elemental dmg) and this build when I have +20 ele armor :

[build prof=Warrior/Ranger][Ursan Blessing][Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support][Summon Naga Shaman][Charm Animal][Comfort Animal][Dolyak Signet][Signet of Stamina][Resurrection Signet][/build]

this build when +10 with stance :

[build prof=Warrior/Ranger][Ursan Blessing][Drunken Master][Summon Naga Shaman][Charm Animal][Comfort Animal][Dolyak Signet][Signet of Stamina][Resurrection Signet][/build]

I got the black widow, I don't always bring my pet cause if he die, you have +8s reload for skills and you can't rez him as ursan...(also bring pain inverter ehehehh ^^)

Anyway, someone who has not understood the UB technic :

[build prof=Warrior/Ranger][Ursan Blessing][Dismember][Critical Chop][Axe Rake][Axe Twist][Flail][Lacerating Chop][Resurrection Signet][/build]

You see that behind UB there is also other skills that goes with it and they shouldn't be forgotten.

Mini Masher · May 21, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16

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Originally Posted by ThibLeGuerrier

/unsigned

There are many good skills in gw and being powerful is cool, UB is an easy way to reach it, ok maybe it has made noob become good players but I don't care, i'm really taking fun with it and when I see the times ursans (R10+cons...) takes for some elite missions it's so long !!!!!!! Look at DoA for instance, foundry was so long to do before something like 3hours, now you got it in less than 1h running ursan... And they say : "You've been playing for two hours, you should have a break etc..." (?!) It can be even more for some dungeons in HM... So ursan is good for reducing times needed for a "normal team", it also allows many people to contemplates the elite regions of gw and to succeed them...

This is written so poorly I didn't bother reading all of it; however, I would like to point out that it is entirely possible to put together builds that do not include Ursan and make decent times in the elite areas and HM dungeons. The inexperienced players who are either too lazy or too dumb to figure that out can now default to UB, which only serves to enable said players to remain lazy/dumb, and effectively makes the game less and less interesting for vetted players as the more experienced players leave the game in disgust.

To put it another way: easy=boring.

N1ghtstalker · May 21, 2008, 07:38 PM // 19:38

stop whining about ursan
you wanna make ursan less used? buff the other blessings

BlackSephir · May 21, 2008, 07:42 PM // 19:42

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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker

stop whining about ursan
you wanna make ursan less used? buff the other blessings

Jesus Christ, fixing overpowered skill by making other skills as overpowered as ursan? How stupid can your suggestions be?
Stop defending ursan just because you suck at pve

Onyx Blindbow · May 21, 2008, 08:10 PM // 20:10

yawn yet another ursan bashing thread, but then there hasn't been one for a week or so

BlackSephir · May 21, 2008, 09:33 PM // 21:33

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Originally Posted by Onyx Blindbow

yawn yet another ursan bashing thread, but then there hasn't been one for a week or so

Maybe because this one's almost month old? How very perceptive of you.

Bowstring Badass · May 21, 2008, 09:53 PM // 21:53

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Jesus Christ, fixing overpowered skill by making other skills as overpowered as ursan? How stupid can your suggestions be?
Stop defending ursan just because you suck at pve

Now the PvP'ers complain about overpowered skills that have no affect on PvP and the PvE'ers get their different nerfs. Stop complaining its not going to help (seriously it wont it will just ruin the game). Stop with the ursan threads already...

Aba · May 21, 2008, 10:06 PM // 22:06

Stop disecting

dont like it, dont use the damn care bears

BlackSephir · May 21, 2008, 10:07 PM // 22:07

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Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass

Now the PvP'ers complain about overpowered skills that have no affect on PvP and the PvE'ers get their different nerfs. Stop complaining its not going to help (seriously it wont it will just ruin the game). Stop with the ursan threads already...

I don't like retarded overpowered skills in the game I'm playing. I will complain. Too bad you can't do anything about it.

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dont like it, dont use the damn care bears

Wasn't it official that the argument "don't like it, don't use it" was made by and is used by morons?

Aba · May 21, 2008, 10:21 PM // 22:21

Well I guess im a moron.....guess i enjoy playing the game more, then complaining about it.

Tyla · May 21, 2008, 10:57 PM // 22:57

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Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass

Now the PvP'ers complain about overpowered skills that have no affect on PvP and the PvE'ers get their different nerfs. Stop complaining its not going to help (seriously it wont it will just ruin the game). Stop with the ursan threads already...

Funny, because I've stopped doing any PvP apart from AB, and I'm still complaining.

By the way, alot of PvP'ers PvE too.

achiles the mermedon · May 21, 2008, 11:23 PM // 23:23

What is the point of this thread?

Fairness
Have nothing better to do but start a thread about who cares whther or not they nerf Ursan?

I ask again what is the point. If you think it is overpowered and want more of a challenge then do not use it.
If you think it is nice to have in a certain area then use it.

Anet just buffed a bunch of skills for PVE should we start complaining about those now?

I just do not get people. It is a game. It has its advantages and disadvantages. If you want to take advantage of them then do so if not STHU